Cohosts Jeannie, Jesse, Mark and Marshall explore some of the themes that have spanned multiple episodes including changing our lives, the future of software development, taking risks, authenticity, and slack bugs.

This will be the last episode of the year, happy holidays!

Book mention: Average is Over by Tyler Cowen.

Jeannie and Jesse chat with Jhun De Andres about his Turing story, family, parenting, therapy, teaching, bookmarks, tech interviews and other topics.

Jesse and Marshall chat with Leah Riffell, engineer at Shopify and 2006 BE Alum about her Turing story, Shopify, nomadic living, continuous learning, social justice, community, all the ways we are not yet there and other topics.